TW: This episode contains discussion of content that may be distressing to some listeners, including childhood trauma.

We’re going to do things a little differently today. You see, it turns out it’s not all that easy to get someone diagnosed with sociopathy or psychopathy to talk about their experiences.

So instead, we’re going straight to the research and talking to Dr Jacob Dye, a researcher at Federation University who does all sorts of interesting work looking at dark triads and other traits that are present in these disorders.

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