In the age of AI, scammers are now equipped with a new arsenal for exploitation - and we need similarly new defences to match. This raises a pressing question: Are we caught in a relentless, technological arms race against scams? Or is the most effective tool for fighting scams an organic one?

Featuring:

• Kevin Gosschalk - Founder and CEO, Arkose Labs
• Professor Dali Kaafar - Executive Director of the Cyber Security Hub, School of Computing, Macquarie University
• Victor Dominello - Co-Founder ServiceGen, former NSW Digital Government Minister
• Brendan Goode - Chief Security Officer, Commonwealth Bank

Hosted by Deb Knight and Trevor Long, Anatomy of a Scam is made in collaboration with CommBank. Stay CommBank Safe with services that help protect you from scams and fraud. Remember 3 simple steps: Stop. Check. Reject.

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