Outmanned and outgunned in what has become a war of attrition against Russia, Ukraine has looked for any way to overcome its vulnerabilities on the battlefield. That search has led to the emergence of killer robots.

Paul Mozur, the global technology correspondent for The Times, explains how Ukraine has become a Silicon Valley for autonomous weapons and how artificial intelligence is reshaping warfare.

Guest: Paul Mozur, the global technology correspondent for The New York Times.

Background reading:

• In the Ukraine war, A.I. has begun ushering in an age of killer robots.

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