Mike and Jesse are joined Jerry Pitre from the ‘Quiet Card Podcast’ to talk about their collective frustration with how the National approaches media (3:52). Later the Head of Fanatics Events, Lance Fensterman, joins to talk about Fanatics Fest NYC and the future of Fanatics Events (33:10). Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson Guests: Jerry Pitre and Lance Fensterman Associate Producer: Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices