Whose idea was the patriarchy? How long has it been a part of our lives? And how do we even define it?

For something that's so prevalent in most of our lives, it can sometimes feel like there's an inevitability to it.

However, there are so many examples of alternatives, and surprising reasons to its origins.

Exploring all of this with Kate today is Angela Saini, author of The Patriarchs: How Men Came To Rule.

This episode was edited by Tom Delargy and produced by Stuart Beckwith. The senior producer was Charlotte Long.

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