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The Shameless podcast shares pop culture news with audiences in a fun and humorous manner. The show informs listeners of celebrity gossip, scandals, and other lighthearted news. Few happenings in celebrity culture and lifestyle escape the notice of the hosts. They discuss Hollywood, the music industry, social media, and more.

Australians Zara McDonald and Michelle Andrews cohost Shameless. They started the podcast in 2018, and it has since grown a massive following. The podcast is a pop culture maven with over 40 million downloads and counting. After leaving Mamamia, a women's media company, the duo started the podcast. In 2020, Zara and Mich coauthored a book called The Space Between. The book is an introspect into life for people in their twenties.

On Shameless, the women present a vibrant and fast-paced show. It's like listening to two relatable best friends chitchatting. Regular episodes debut on Mondays. There are also monthly book club episodes where the hosts recommend books. After the hosts share their week, they provide reading or listening recommendations. Recommendations could be an episode of another podcast, an article, or a post. The podcast covers entertainment topics ranging from Disney to The Real Housewives franchise. Zara and Mich dissect every fresh scandal, meltdown, hookup, and breakup. They also address issues like mental health and social media anxiety.

Gwyneth Paltrow, Hailey Bieber, and Michelle Andrews have all come up in discussions. Topics also address TV shows, movies, and music. The Aussie hosts' easy banter, insight, and humor make the show enjoyable. The podcast is entertaining, perky, and informative. Listeners will laugh while learning what's new with A-listers like Taylor Swift and Harry Styles. New episodes drop several times a week.

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Talking About Talking Talk Tuah

Talking About Talking Talk Tuah

Hi hi hi! On today’s show: John Krasinski was crowned People Magazine’s Sexiest Man Alive and the public has complaints. Molly Mae Hague sat down with British VOGUE to talk about her breakup, the celebrity boxing match of the year was a flop, Mark Zuckerberg has recorded a rap/love song and we’re going to unpack it, and the Snapchat renaissance is here. This week, Mich recommended Cher is Cher from Celebrity Memoir Book Club. Zara recommended Nicole Kidman Still Feels It All from GQ. Big thanks to Hairhouse for making this episode possible. This Black Friday, shop the biggest hair brands at 20-50% off. To listen to Tarrah Jordan’s episode of Inherited, head here. This episode was audio-produced by Eilish Gilligan. Want to support our show? Clicking ‘follow’ on Apple and Spotify is the best way to do that, and we're super grateful to anyone who leaves a five-star review while they're at it. Also! An old-fashioned 'Tell a Friend In Real Life' is equally appreciated. Everything else your heart could ever desire is here: https://linktr.ee/shamelesspodcast Thanks for listening! We’re huge fans of you.

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Talking About Talking Talk Tuah

Talking About Talking Talk Tuah

Hi hi hi! On today’s show: John Krasinski was crowned People Magazine’s Sexiest Man Alive and the public has complaints. Molly Mae Hague sat down with British VOGUE to talk about her breakup, the celebrity boxing match of the year was a flop, Mark Zuckerberg has recorded a rap/love song and we’re going to unpack it, and the Snapchat renaissance is here. This week, Mich recommended Cher is Cher from Celebrity Memoir Book Club. Zara recommended Nicole Kidman Still Feels It All from GQ. Big thanks to Hairhouse for making this episode possible. This Black Friday, shop the biggest hair brands at 20-50% off. To listen to Tarrah Jordan’s episode of Inherited, head here. This episode was audio-produced by Eilish Gilligan. Want to support our show? Clicking ‘follow’ on Apple and Spotify is the best way to do that, and we're super grateful to anyone who leaves a five-star review while they're at it. Also! An old-fashioned 'Tell a Friend In Real Life' is equally appreciated. Everything else your heart could ever desire is here: https://linktr.ee/shamelesspodcast Thanks for listening! We’re huge fans of you.

Ariana, Ethan and the three steps to PR recovery

Ariana, Ethan and the three steps to PR recovery

Hiiii, everyone! On the show: Just over a year ago, the world found out about Ariana Grande and Ethan Slater’s new relationship, and fans were… outraged. It was a PR nightmare that threatened to take the Wicked movie down with it, a la Don’t Worry Darling. But now, one year on… and days ahead of the film’s premiere… have they done the impossible and turned it all around? Plus! Speaking of controversial relationships, we have an update on those Hugh Jackman and Sutton Foster headlines… This week, Zara recommended watching Press on Amazon Prime! Big thanks to Australia Post for making this episode possible. The AusPost app automatically adds all of your deliveries to your account, so you can track it all in one place. And with 2-hour delivery notifications you can stay on top of it all! Get on it and download the AusPost app today. Want to support our show? Clicking ‘follow’ on Apple and Spotify is the best way to do that, and we're super grateful to anyone who leaves a five-star review while they're at it. Also! An old-fashioned 'Tell a Friend In Real Life' is equally appreciated. Want more? We've got more... Aaaand everything else your heart could ever desire is here: https://linktr.ee/shamelesspodcast Thanks for listening! We’re huge fans of you.

Rejecting $12 million

Rejecting $12 million

Hello hello! On today’s show: Brianna Lapaglia accuses Zach Bryan of emotional abuse and says she rejected his team’s offer of $12 million to keep quiet. Plus, the celeb lookalike contests are out of control, the Grammys noms are out and there are a few key snubs, Paul Mescal doesn’t want to become too famous, and meet the billionaire who just bought The Block. This week, Mich recommended Heston Blumenthal: ‘I was manic. My wife put me in hospital’ in the Sunday Times. And also! Her new favourite free-to-air show: Deal or No Deal. Big thanks to Hubbl for making this episode possible. Right now, you can get 50% off Hubbl Hub to celebrate Black Friday! This offer lasts until the 8th of December so now is the perfect time there’s no better time to upgrade your Smart TV. And thank you to Four Pillars for supporting this episode of Shameless! This summer, enjoy a Four Pillars G&T, with orange. And remember to drink wise. Want to support our show? Clicking ‘follow’ on Apple and Spotify is the best way to do that, and we're super grateful to anyone who leaves a five-star review while they're at it. Also! An old-fashioned 'Tell a Friend In Real Life' is equally appreciated. Want more? We've got more... Aaaand everything else your heart could ever desire is here: https://linktr.ee/shamelesspodcast Thanks for listening! We’re huge fans of you.

The true crime conundrum

The true crime conundrum

Hello! Today on the show, Anna Kendrick told the world that she’s donating the profits from her new film, Woman of the Hour, to charity. Which got us thinking: true crime content has never been more popular, but how ethical is it, really? Oh, and Mich tells us all about Dave Portnoy’s Zach Bryan diss track. This episode of Shameless is brought to you by Airbnb. On today’s show, Zara recommended All Those A-List Celebs Couldn’t Save Harris, But Joe Rogan Helped Trump from The Hollywood Reporter. And here’s Anna Kendrick on Armchair Expert. Want to support our show? Clicking ‘follow’ on Apple and Spotify is the best way to do that, and we're super grateful to anyone who leaves a five-star review while they're at it. Also! An old-fashioned 'Tell a Friend In Real Life' is equally appreciated. Want more? We've got more… Subscribe to our newsletter Smart, Dumb Stuff: https://tinyurl.com/4yasjphn Follow us on Instagram: https://tinyurl.com/2mf557ux Aaaand we’re on TikTok: https://tinyurl.com/2hchchrp Everything else your heart could ever desire is here: https://linktr.ee/shamelesspodcast Thanks for listening! We’re huge fans of you.

Red flag hunters

Red flag hunters

Why helloooo, everyone! On today’s show: Channing Tatum and Zoë Kravitz called off their engagement on the heels of their PR tour. Cynthia Erivo says she should’ve called her friends instead, the public voted for the world’s sexiest musician and in doing so, failed the culture, Olivia Rodrigo’s tip for finding red flags, and can you name the biggest musician in the world right now? We chart his curious rise back to the top. This week, Zara recommended listening to Rivals: The Official Podcast by Wondery. Mich recommended The Ad Campaign by The Daily. This episode was audio produced by Eilish Gilligan and Annabelle Lee. Big thanks to CeraVe and their new AM Facial Moisturising Lotion with SPF50 for making this episode possible. Grab CeraVe’s AM Facial Moisturising Lotion with SPF50, exclusively at Chemist Warehouse. (Now, for the legal stuff! Always read the label and follow the directions for use. Apply 20 minutes before sun exposure, and reapply every 2 hours and after swimming, towelling, or perspiring in accordance with the directions. Remember, sunscreen is only one part of sun protection, always wear protective clothing, seek shade and avoid prolonged sun exposure.) Want to support our show? Clicking ‘follow’ on Apple and Spotify is the best way to do that, and we're super grateful to anyone who leaves a five-star review while they're at it. Also! An old-fashioned 'Tell a Friend In Real Life' is equally appreciated. Want more? We've got more... Aaaand everything else your heart could ever desire is here: https://linktr.ee/shamelesspodcast Thanks for listening! We’re huge fans of you.

We read Jackie O's memoir

We read Jackie O's memoir

Well hi! Today on the show: infamous radio host Jackie O has just released her memoir, The Whole Truth, and of course we read it as quickly as we could. In this book, Jackie O discusses her struggle with addiction, her relationships and divorces, money, and the ups and downs of The Kyle and Jackie O Show, which has been dominating Australian airwaves for decades. This episode of Shameless is brought to you by Hubbl, the instant upgrade to your smart TV. On today’s show, Mich recommended ‘Chris Martin: the rock god who thrives in the face of critical sneers’ from The Guardian. Zara recommended Rivals on Disney+. This episode was audio-produced by Eilish Gilligan. Want to support our show? Clicking ‘follow’ on Apple and Spotify is the best way to do that, and we're super grateful to anyone who leaves a five-star review while they're at it. Also! An old-fashioned 'Tell a Friend In Real Life' is equally appreciated. Want more? We've got more… Subscribe to our newsletter Smart, Dumb Stuff: https://tinyurl.com/4yasjphn Follow us on Instagram: https://tinyurl.com/2mf557ux Aaaand we’re on TikTok: https://tinyurl.com/2hchchrp Everything else your heart could ever desire is here: https://linktr.ee/shamelesspodcast Thanks for listening! We’re huge fans of you.

Strong feeling = fact

Strong feeling = fact

Heeeyyy! On today’s show: Hugh Jackman’s rumoured new relationship is making quite a few headlines, we’re obsessed with Saoirse Ronan’s viral moment on Graham Norton’s couch, Timothée Chalamet just rocked up to his lookalike contest, Gisele Bündchen is pregnant to her former jiu-jitsu instructor, aaaand we play clickbait of the week! Head here to listen to Zara Seidler’s episode on Inherited. Big thanks to Airbnb for making this episode possible. Head here to book your next relaxing trip. This episode was audio produced by Annabelle Lee. Want to support our show? Clicking ‘follow’ on Apple and Spotify is the best way to do that, and we're super grateful to anyone who leaves a five-star review while they're at it. Also! An old-fashioned 'Tell a Friend In Real Life' is equally appreciated. Want more? We've got more... Aaaand everything else your heart could ever desire is here: https://linktr.ee/shamelesspodcast Thanks for listening! We’re huge fans of you.

Bringing OnlyFans to O-Week

Bringing OnlyFans to O-Week

Hi hi! Today on the show, everyone in the Shameless Media office is talking about Bonnie Blue, the controversial OnlyFans creator and social media influencer with a… erm… unique approach to her work. This unique approach definitely sets her apart… but is it ethical? And later, The Hollywood Reporter just published its 2024 Creator A-List, and when it comes to social media, anyone who’s anyone is on that list. But in 2024, what makes an influencer truly influential? This episode of Shameless is brought to you by the new CeraVe AM Facial Moisturising Lotion with SPF50, now available at Chemist Warehouse. Your Shameless hosts are Zara McDonald (@zamcdonald) and Michelle Andrews (@michelleandrews1). This episode was researched and audio-produced by Eilish Gilligan. On today’s show, Mich recommended Katie Price on The Louis Theroux Podcast. Zara recommended Spotify’s DJ X feature. Want to support our show? Clicking ‘follow’ on Apple and Spotify is the best way to do that, and we're super grateful to anyone who leaves a five-star review while they're at it. Also! An old-fashioned 'Tell a Friend In Real Life' is equally appreciated. Want more? We've got more… Subscribe to our newsletter Smart, Dumb Stuff: https://tinyurl.com/4yasjphn Follow us on Instagram: https://tinyurl.com/2mf557ux Aaaand we’re on TikTok: https://tinyurl.com/2hchchrp Everything else your heart could ever desire is here: https://linktr.ee/shamelesspodcast Thanks for listening! We’re huge fans of you.

More strong? Really correct!

More strong? Really correct!

Hello!!! On today’s show: the star of Wicked Cynthia Erivo slammed fans’ homemade artwork, and the response has been rather intense. Industry names call for an age-restriction to joining musical groups in the wake of Liam Payne’s death, Andrew Garfield might’ve just fallen in love and it sadly wasn’t with Nana Bot Lee, and Zara welcomes you to her algorithm. This episode was audio produced by Annabelle Lee. Big thanks to Love Island Australia for making this episode possible. Stream new episodes Monday to Thursday, free on 9Now. You don’t want to miss a second of this sizzling season! Want to support our show? Clicking ‘follow’ on Apple and Spotify is the best way to do that, and we're super grateful to anyone who leaves a five-star review while they're at it. Also! An old-fashioned 'Tell a Friend In Real Life' is equally appreciated. Want more? We've got more... Aaaand everything else your heart could ever desire is here: https://linktr.ee/shamelesspodcast Thanks for listening! We’re huge fans of you.

The death of Liam Payne

The death of Liam Payne

Hello! On today’s show: former One Direction star Liam Payne has died, so how do we make sense of his death as both a beloved teen idol as well as a man accused of inflicting pain on women? And then, the Victoria’s Secret fashion show is back! So what did we make of the spectacle? This week, Zara recommended Sunday Sports Club with Alison Kuch. Mich recommended Mr Big from ABC Podcasts: new Unravelled series. This episode was audio produced by Eilish Gilligan. Big thanks to frank green, Australia’s most loved reusable brand, for making this episode possible. Want to support our show? Clicking ‘follow’ on Apple and Spotify is the best way to do that, and we're super grateful to anyone who leaves a five-star review while they're at it. Also! An old-fashioned 'Tell a Friend In Real Life' is equally appreciated. Want more? We've got more... Subscribe to the Shameless newsletter, Smart Dumb Stuff: http://eepurl.com/iH2sV-/ Aaaand everything else your heart could ever desire is here: https://linktr.ee/shamelesspodcast Thanks for listening! We are very big fans of yours.

Shoutout to our HABs

Shoutout to our HABs

Hey, everyone! On today’s show: The highlights from Tommy Fury’s new memoir! We have lots to share! Plus, JoJo Siwa puts a bizarre Beyonce conspiracy theory on the mainstream map, is anyone else on the Aspyn Ovard algorithm right now? Did Nicole Kidman and Salma Hayak have a feud at a fashion show, Andrew Garfield’s ex tells us precisely why they split, and then! We play Are You Smarter Than A Clickbaiter. Big thanks to Yoplait protein-packed yoghurt for making this episode possible. Start your morning right, try Yoplait Protein today, and let the deliciousness do the rest! Available only at Woolies. This episode was audio produced by Annabelle Lee. Want to support our show? Clicking ‘follow’ on Apple and Spotify is the best way to do that, and we're super grateful to anyone who leaves a five-star review while they're at it. Also! An old-fashioned 'Tell a Friend In Real Life' is equally appreciated. Want more? We've got more... Aaaand everything else your heart could ever desire is here: https://linktr.ee/shamelesspodcast Thanks for listening! We’re huge fans of you.

Sabrina Carpenter and how to nail a year

Sabrina Carpenter and how to nail a year

Hiiii! On today’s show: we chart the rise of Sabrina Carpenter’s insane year – has anyone had a better, more perfectly curated, rise to the top than she has? Then, Billie Eilish and FINNEAS gave an interview to Spotify, and we want to unpack the quotes. This week, Zara recommended The Fin podcast: Succession parts one and two. Mich recommended watching James Acaster’s cold lasagne hate myself 1999. Big thanks to Elite Eleven’s new Spring/Summer collection for making this episode possible. Shameless listeners can get a cheeky 10% off the new collection when they use the code ‘SHAMELESS10’ at the checkout. There’s no better time to find your next favourite piece on the app, in-store, or online at eliteelevensporting.com. Want to support our show? Clicking ‘follow’ on Apple and Spotify is the best way to do that, and we're super grateful to anyone who leaves a five-star review while they're at it. Also! An old-fashioned 'Tell a Friend In Real Life' is equally appreciated. This episode was audio produced by Michelle Andrews, Zara McDonald and Annabelle Lee. Want more? We've got more... Aaaand everything else your heart could ever desire is here: https://linktr.ee/shamelesspodcast Thanks for listening! We’re huge fans of you.

Remember When... Gossip Girl was it?

Remember When... Gossip Girl was it?

Happy Saturday, everybody! Welcome to the final episode of REMEMBER WHEN, where we analyse the most intriguing celebrity stories to ever come out of New York City. Today, we’re retracing the (Met) steps of a classic: Gossip Girl. The heart of this show lives in New York City, so we thought we’d pay our respects to the most iconic NYC locations as seen in the show, while giving you the goss on what went down behind the scenes. Big thanks to ING for making this episode possible. Travel and save with an ING Orange Everyday card - search ‘ING Orange Everyday’ before your next trip. This episode was researched and audio produced by Eilish Gilligan. Want to support our show? Clicking ‘follow’ on Apple and Spotify is the best way to do that, and we're super grateful to anyone who leaves a five-star review while they're at it. Also! An old-fashioned 'Tell a Friend In Real Life' is equally appreciated. Want more? We've got more... Aaaand everything else your heart could ever desire is here: https://linktr.ee/shamelesspodcast Thanks for listening! We’re huge fans of you.

Our review of Olivia Rodrigo's Guts Tour

Our review of Olivia Rodrigo's Guts Tour

Hi! Happy Saturday! Welcome to our October review episode!!!! If you’ve missed the news, we run a monthly series here in the Shameless feed: reviews of the zeitgeist moments that everyone’s talking about. This month, we went to Olivia Rodrigo’s Guts Tour, and we are soooo so excited to review the whole experience for you today. Big thanks to Drop of Sunshine for making this episode possible. To pick up a bottle of Drop of Sunshine, head into your local Dan Murphy’s and always remember to drink wise. Your hosts today were Michelle Andrews (@michelleandrews1), Zara McDonald (@zamcdonald) and Annabelle Lee (@annabe11e1ee). This episode was audio produced by Annabelle Lee. Want to support our show? Clicking ‘follow’ on Apple and Spotify is the best way to do that, and we're super grateful to anyone who leaves a five-star review while they're at it. Also! An old-fashioned 'Tell a Friend In Real Life' is equally appreciated. Want more? We've got more... Subscribe to the Shameless newsletter, Smart Dumb Stuff: http://eepurl.com/iH2sV-/ Aaaand everything else your heart could ever desire is here: https://linktr.ee/shamelesspodcast Thanks for listening! We’re huge fans of you.

Just a few movie buffs

Just a few movie buffs

Hello hello! On today’s show: Kanye West’s marriage to Bianca Censori might be over… maybe… Anne Hathaway announces Princess Diaries 3, Diddy’s legal headaches just got substantially worse, Kamala Harris goes on Call Her Daddy, how Dakota Fanning survived child stardom, more cookie chat, and then! It’s Zara’s turn to play Slow News Week. Head here to listen to Annabelle’s episode of Inherited. This episode was audio produced by Annabelle Lee. Big thanks to Four Pillars Gin for making this episode possible. This summer, enjoy a Four Pillars G&T by heading right here, and don’t forget the orange! Always remember to drink wise. Want to support our show? Clicking ‘follow’ on Apple and Spotify is the best way to do that, and we're super grateful to anyone who leaves a five-star review while they're at it. Also! An old-fashioned 'Tell a Friend In Real Life' is equally appreciated. Want more? We've got more... Aaaand everything else your heart could ever desire is here: https://linktr.ee/shamelesspodcast Thanks for listening! We’re huge fans of you.

The most famous gyno in the world

The most famous gyno in the world

Hiyaaaa! On today’s show: How do we feel about the most famous gynaecologist in the world being profiled by The Cut? Conflicted, I think! And then, Mich has a kind of My Two Cents that she’s been sitting with for a little while now with all of this in mind… how do we feel about celebrities and their flippant comments about surrogacy? But first, Zara, what are you recommending this week? Want to support our show? Clicking ‘follow’ on Apple and Spotify is the best way to do that, and we're super grateful to anyone who leaves a five-star review while they're at it. Also! An old-fashioned 'Tell a Friend In Real Life' is equally appreciated. Big thanks to Airbnb for making this episode possible. Head here to book your next relaxing trip. This episode was audio produced by Michelle Andrews, Zara McDonald and Annabelle Lee. Want more? We've got more... Aaaand everything else your heart could ever desire is here: https://linktr.ee/shamelesspodcast Thanks for listening! We’re huge fans of you.

Remember When... we went to Late Night?

Remember When... we went to Late Night?

Helloooooo! Happy Saturday!!!!! Welcome to the third episode of REMEMBER WHEN. This episode is going to be a little different to our last couple of New York eps. Basically, when we decided to go to NY, we knew we had to get in the audience for a late night talk show. Or, you know, any American talk show. Day or night. And we wanted to take you along for the journey! Big thanks to Maybelline New York for making this episode possible. To celebrate Australia’s #1 makeup brand, Priceline is taking 50% off the entire Maybelline range but only until the 9th of October, while stocks last. Head here to purchase! This episode was researched and audio produced by Eilish Gilligan. Want to support our show? Clicking ‘follow’ on Apple and Spotify is the best way to do that, and we're super grateful to anyone who leaves a five-star review while they're at it. Also! An old-fashioned 'Tell a Friend In Real Life' is equally appreciated. Want more? We've got more... Aaaand everything else your heart could ever desire is here: https://linktr.ee/shamelesspodcast Thanks for listening! We’re huge fans of you.

Oftentimes, it's useless chat

Oftentimes, it's useless chat

Hello hello! On today’s show: it turns out Nobody Wants This was the Netflix romcom that, actually, everybody very much wanted. Plus, Lana Del Ray married alligator tour guide Jeremy Dufrene, Chappell Roan cancels more shows, Shawn Mendes says he and Camila Cabello still exist in a private little fire of love, Jeremy Allen White is papped kissing again and then, obviously, we need to talk about Crumbl Sydney. This episode was audio produced by Annabelle Lee. Big thanks to Uniqlo for making this episode possible. Discover your best T at Uniqlo, by shopping in-store or online at uniqlo.com.au. Want to support our show? Clicking ‘follow’ on Apple and Spotify is the best way to do that, and we're super grateful to anyone who leaves a five-star review while they're at it. Also! An old-fashioned 'Tell a Friend In Real Life' is equally appreciated. Want more? We've got more... Aaaand everything else your heart could ever desire is here: https://linktr.ee/shamelesspodcast Thanks for listening! We’re huge fans of you.

Our new show...

Our new show...

Search for 'Inherited' wherever you get your podcasts—or you can watch it on YouTube. Inherited is an interview show that explores the Relics, Recipes, Rituals, and Rules we inherit over our lifetime and how they shape who we are today. New episodes drop every Tuesday. Follow Inherited on Instagram and on TikTok.

Are you cool enough for the new Sally Rooney novel?

Are you cool enough for the new Sally Rooney novel?

Welcome to our brand new Monday episodes! Coming up on today’s show: Are you cool enough for the new Sally Rooney novel? Are we cool enough for it? Is anyone? Advance copies of Sally Rooney’s new novel Intermezzo have become a surprise status symbol, and we want to know - what would Sally, someone who famously eschews fame, think about it all? And then: the column that made us think and feel a lot about womanhood, and writing, and mining your personal life for content. This episode of Shameless was brought to you by Libra. Libra understands the full reality of your experiences and designs solutions with their real needs in mind. Read 'Are You Cool Enough For The New Sally Rooney Novel?" from Esquire here. Subscribe to Bri Lee's Substack here. This week, Zara recommended a talk with suki waterhouse. Mich recommended How Telegram Became The Underworld's Favourite App. This episode was audio produced by Eilish Gilligan. Want to support our show? Clicking ‘follow’ on Apple and Spotify is the best way to do that, and we're super grateful to anyone who leaves a five-star review while they're at it. Also! An old-fashioned 'Tell a Friend In Real Life' is equally appreciated. Want more? We've got more... Subscribe to the Shameless newsletter, Smart Dumb Stuff: http://eepurl.com/iH2sV-/ Aaaand everything else your heart could ever desire is here: https://linktr.ee/shamelesspodcast Thanks for listening! We are very big fans of yours.