Hi Friends and welcome to JOY IS NOW! The podcast where we take a psychologically minded look at life. I’m your host Lisa Anderson Shaffer, coach, consultant, and resident psych enthusiast.

I am excited to host for a THESE THREE THINGS discussion, Oakland mother of two, Down Syndrome advocate, aspiring entrepreneur, and fellow slow fashion enthusiast, ELENA FONG! We talk lessons on unconditional love, letting go of guilt, and the growth in vulnerability.

This has been JOY IS NOW with me, Lisa Anderson Shaffer, LMFT. You can find me for hire at LISAANDERSONSHAFFER.COM and join the patronage support for this podcast and my daily practice journal, THESE THREE THINGS at patreon.com/lisaandersonshaffer. You can also follow along with my musings at @lisaandersonshaffer on Instagram.

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